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PowerSeller Pointers #5 – HTML for Absolute Beginners
View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:50 BST


Good afternoon and welcome to the fifth and last of the PowerSeller Pointer Workshops. Last week's was on Advanced Shops and can be reviewed here.

The pinks, here at eBay UK, were approached by a group of PowerSellers who asked if they could use the Workshop Boards to host a series of workshops around the theme of good eBay practices for businesses on eBay. Individually they are PowerSellers who have each enjoyed (through tremendous hard work and skill) business success on eBay but collectively they want to share with you some of the pointers they picked up along the way, so who were we to say no to such a kind and thoughtful offer?

Today’s is on HTML for Absolute Beginners and will be led by biddybidbidbid.

She has asked that people DO NOT post or test HTML codes during this workshop. We would like to maintain as clean a workshop as possible. Please use the remainder of the HTML board for that.

Feel free to ask questions as the workshop runs but please be mindful of the fact that our host will be doing her best to address many issues at the same time – such is the quick fire nature of forums!

Us pinks will also tag along for the ride and will be happy to do our best to field questions that perhaps our Pointers cannot. Finally we’d also ask you to respect the considerable time and effort that these sellers have put in. Their enthusiasm for eBay and the how to unlock the potential of the site knows no bounds and I would certainly like to start by thanking them for their efforts.

All the best
Jamie
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) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:51 BST 1 of 121
Hi, and welcome!

My name's Sue (eBay ID: biddybidbidbid). I'm a Powerseller, I've been selling on eBay since 2000, full time for the last two years. I wrote my first web site eleven years ago, and my first commercial site six years ago. As well as two eBay shops, I maintain several personal and commercial sites at the moment.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:51 BST 2 of 121
In this webinar, we'll look at some of the elements that make up a good listing, and the ways they can be put together effectively. I don't assume you have any prior knowledge of HTML at all. I won't be showing you how to create a full-blown website, or even everything that HTML can do, but some easy things you can learn to help your listings stand out. We'll be covering the following areas:
  1. What HTML is, and why you need to know it

  2. Formatting text:
    • Bold, italic and underlining
    • Line breaks
    • Controlling text colour and size
    • Non-keyboard characters

  3. Links

  4. Pictures

  5. Tables

  6. Designing your listing


If you know absolutely no HTML at all, this might all be a lot to take in in one hit. I've begun with the easiest things to do, working through to more complex ideas, so you might find it easier to make yourself thoroughly familiar with one section before you tackle the next.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:52 BST 3 of 121

What is HTML?

HTML (it stands for "Hyper-Text Markup Language", though you don't need to remember that!) is simply a set of instructions that tell your browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, AOL, etc.) how to display words and pictures. It isn't "computer programming" and if you get it wrong, all you'll get is a funny-looking web page. You can't blow up your computer, destroy eBay or close down the internet with HTML: in other words, it's nothing to be afraid of.

Why learn HTML?

Why bother learning something new when eBay provide you with listing templates and a listing designer? With just a little work, you can make your listings look completely different from everyone elses. Rather than your auctions looking the same as your competition's, you can have your own logos, your own colour scheme, and a layout that's designed specifically for the items you sell. You can have consistent branding across your auction listings, eBay Shop pages and email marketing: in fact, you can make your presence on eBay unique!


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:54 BST 4 of 121

Words

In this section, we'll take a look at our first HTML tags and learn some very easy ways to control the appearance of text in your listings. "Tag", by the way, simply means one small piece of HTML code: <b> for example.

Bold and Italic

For our first HTML tags, lets suppose you want some words to stand out as important in your auction listing: you could make the text bold or italic.

To make the text bold, all you do is type <b> at the beginning of the bold text, and </b> when you want the bold to stop. The pointy brackets are the ones on the second-to-bottom row of your keyboard, just to the right of "m".

<b>here is some bold text</b> will give you here is some bold text

Italics works in the same way: <i>here is some italic text</i> will give you here is some italic text

Notice how these tags come in pairs, an opening one and a closing one: remember to put in the closing tag, or the text will be changed for the rest of the listing!

Most HTML tags do make sense if you remember what they stand for. B for bold, I for italic. Next, let's see what U stands for. :-D


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:55 BST 5 of 121

Underlining

The underline tag is another nice simple one:
<u>here is some underlined text</u> gives you here is some underlined text

Though underlining can sometimes be useful, be careful where you use it. On the internet, underlined usually indicates a link: if you underline text that isn't a link, you can confuse your buyers.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:57 BST 6 of 121

Line spacing

We've all seen auctions where the text is in one huge block, with the item description, postage, payment methods and terms and conditions all running into each other in a big, illegible block. I can't be bothered to read them, and I'm sure most buyers would feel the same. Putting in line breaks is one of the simplest things you can do, but can make the biggest difference to how legible your auction is.

The tag for this is also very simple: <br> will give you one line break...
just like that! And if you want a gap between the two lines, all you need to do is put two <br> tags in...

like that!


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 13:59 BST 7 of 121

Changing text colour and size

There are several ways to change the size and colour of your text. I will show you the easiest one here.

The <font> tag is a very versatile tag. It can change the colour, the size or both of your text. For example:
<font size="+2">Here's some big text</font>
will give you
Here's some big text
The number after the "size" attribute tells the browser, 'make this text two sizes larger than normal'. If you want to, you can also make the text smaller:
<font size="-2">Here's some small text</font>
will give you
Here's some small text

Notice how there's a pair of double quotes in that tag. Make sure you include both the opening and closing quote marks, otherwise your code will not work as you expect it to.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:02 BST 8 of 121
In the same way, you can change the colour of your text:
<font color="red">Here is some red text</font> will give you Here is some red text
(Note the American spelling of color.)

There are sixteen different colour names you can safely use with the font tag: aqua, black, blue, fuchsia, gray, green, lime, maroon, navy, olive, purple, red, silver, teal, white, and yellow. And if none of those is quite right, you can even specify the exact mix of the red, green and blue primary colours with the hash sign followed by a six digit code like this:
<font color="#ff00ff">here is some bright pink text</font> will give you here is some bright pink text
If you want, you can see a list of codes and the colours they represent at http://webmonkey.com/webmonkey/reference/color_codes/.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:02 BST 9 of 121
bookworm_rascal
What I want to know is how to get the codes for the colours for HTML.

Hope that link helps you. Some graphics programs can also be set to give these hexadecimal codes for colours. For example, if you use Paintshop Pro, under File > Preferences > General Programme Preference > Palettes, you can select hexadecimal colours there, and set it to always display them. I find that very helpful for making sure that graphics and other page elements such as text match each other.

And to be honest, as you practise more, you'll start to find that you can guess pretty close to the colour you want anyway. :)


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:04 BST 10 of 121
Size and colour attributes can also be used together, like this:

<font color="blue" size="+4">Postage Costs</font>
to give you
Postage Costs


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:05 BST 11 of 121
Hi Biddy,

This is all double dutch to me but I will learn - promise;)
Very interesting this workshop. Thanks a lot.
....................................
Gwen


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:07 BST 12 of 121
Thanks Gwen! Start at the top, take it slowly... I didn't learn it all in an afternoon either ;)


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:08 BST 13 of 121
Gwen (and everyone else) please let us know which bits you don't understand, we'll go over them again so feel free to ask questions :)



) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:08 BST 14 of 121
Be careful when choosing colours. The easiest text to read is dark text on a light background. Light text on a dark background can be effective, but might need to be larger, bolder or both to be readable. Notice in the paragraph above how "yellow" is difficult to read against a white background. Dark text on a dark background is going to be illegible for almost everyone: a very bad idea! (We'll look at setting background colours in a minute.)

Changes in font sizes, too, should be used carefully. Auctions that use huge text all the way through are just as illegible as those that use tiny little writing.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:08 BST 15 of 121
Yeah but Biddy when you explain it it makes sense.

Mike




) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:08 BST 16 of 121
I'm sitting here watching, can't think of any questions because I know nothing about html, but will bookmark this thread as I have the book keeping one.
These worshops will stay here for future reference wont they?

Hope so because they are a brilliant help:)





) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:09 BST 17 of 121
Yes, just to reiterate what Mounty says, if you don't understand anything, or need more information on any point, do ask :)


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:10 BST 18 of 121
I do understand it but it's remembering wot to do I have the problem with!
....................................
Gwen


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:10 BST 19 of 121
Thanks Mike :)

Donna, yes, this thread and all the other webinars will remain; as the others have, it'll be moved to the workshops board after this afternoon, but it will certainly be available for future reference.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:10 BST 20 of 121
Is there a set sequence for putting several instructions together - eg. underlined double sized blue text?
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) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:11 BST 21 of 121
How do you change the background colour please?

) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:13 BST 22 of 121
tryac1
Is there a set sequence for putting several instructions together - eg. underlined double sized blue text?

That's an excellent question :-D

There isn't a set sequence. However, you should close the tags in the opposite order to how you opened them: so if you have bold and italic,
<b><i>bold italic text</i></b>


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:14 BST 23 of 121
Quizster, will be coming to your background colour question in a minute. :)

The workshop board is here:
http://forums.ebay.co.uk/forum.jspa?forumID=11


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:15 BST 24 of 121

Special Characters

Sometimes in your listings, you'll want to use characters that aren't part of the normal keyboard set of symbols: for example, the copyright sign, the Euro symbol or fractions. This section looks briefly at how to use these characters.

These special characters require special codes, which your browser will interpret to display the sign you want. These begin with the & symbol and end with the semi-colon ; For example, &copy; will give you the © copyright symbol. Some more characters that might be useful in your listings are:

&euro; €
&reg; ®
&frac12; ½
&frac14; ¼
&frac34; ¾
If you ever list in languages other than English, you might find the following examples useful:
&aacute; á
&egrave; è
&ccedil; ç
&ouml; ö

This gives you a brief overview of some special characters. If you'd like to see what further characters are available, Google for "html entities": there are hundreds!


View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:15 BST 25 of 121
All the previous Workshops are archived at the top of the Workshops Board. We will be leaving them for future reference.

Jamie

) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:15 BST 26 of 121
In this section, we've learned how to make text bold, italic or underlined, how to put in line breaks and non-keyboard characters, and how to change the colour and size of text. We've also seen that there are good ways to use HTML, and some ways which are not so good.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:16 BST 27 of 121
pets_express - I do understand it but it's remembering wot to do I have the problem with!

It's easier to remember once you realise the HTML tags mean something, eg <B7gt; for Bold, <i> for italic etc The more you use HTML the easier it becomes :)



) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:16 BST 28 of 121

Links

In this section, we'll learn how to create clickable text that links to another web page: for example, to your eBay Shop front.
Here's what a link tag looks like:
<a href="URL">LINK TEXT</a>


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:17 BST 29 of 121
"href" stands for "hypertext reference", which is a geeky way of saying the URL of the page you're linking to: e.g. <a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk">

The second element in the link is the text that you want to be clickable, which goes between the opening and closing tags:

<a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk">Click here for eBay's front page</a> turns into
Click here for eBay's front page.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:17 BST 30 of 121
Quick one before we finish this section. What's the difference between a paragraph and a line break?

Mike




) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:18 BST 31 of 121
The text, of course, can be anything you like. The URL can be a link to your shop home page or perhaps better, to specific shop categories relevant to your listed item: just click on the relevent category in your shop, and then copy the entire address bar into your link tag. If you're selling electronic goods, a link that says "buy the batteries to go with this item" and links directly to the relevent shop listing, might be just what your customer is looking for!


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:21 BST 32 of 121
Krythy
What's the difference between a paragraph and a line break?

*Briefly*, <br> will give you one new line, and the paragraph tag <p> will give you two, as if you'd put in two br tags. (Where you might want to use one rather than the other is a little more complex than the absolute beginners standard we're aiming for today.)


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:21 BST 33 of 121
krythy - Quick one before we finish this section. What's the difference between a paragraph and a line break?

A Paragraph <p> is like pressing the return key twice - it puts in a blank line before starting a new line

A Line Break <br> is like pressing the return key once - it just starts a new line



) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:21 BST 34 of 121
qersoft
When inserting a hyperlink to a page in my my Ebay shop, I copy the URL for the path.
However, there seems to be a lot of superfluous letters at the end of the URL that dont appear to have any effect. Should I include these in the URL or not?
eg
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/mystore_catagoryA_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ17QQftidZ2QQtZkm


Most of the time, the superfluous letters are for tracking where your visitors come from, so can be safely missed out. However, if you're linking to a subcategory of your shop and miss the encoded information from the end, you break the link, and it goes to the front page of your shop instead of the subcategory. So do check the link goes where you want it to, before you pass it on to a potential customer!


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:23 BST 35 of 121
Adding links to your listings is an easy way to guide buyers to go where you want them.

Now lets take a look at adding pictures.


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:24 BST 36 of 121
Hello - been lurking :)


* I just copied post #34 in my group for future reference - but of course it just posted the symbols and not the code!... how did you do that?:|*

(Is that at all clear? B-)*


Have now saved it as a screenshot!



) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:25 BST 37 of 121

Pictures

In this section, we'll look at putting pictures into your listings, why eBay's picture hosting isn't necessarily the best solution for you, and how you can have multiple images on your auctions without paying the earth for them.

Why not just use eBay picture hosting?

eBay's picture hosting offers you one free picture on every listing. While for some items, this can be enough, often it's not. Close-ups of jewellery, back views of clothing, the interior of a car: all of these can mean higher bids or quicker buy it nows. If you have a Gallery picture on your item, you can probably find a better way to use that feature than a shrunk-down version of the big picture. If you host your own pictures rather than leaving it to eBay, you can have as many pictures as you like for very little money, and perhaps for free!


) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:25 BST 38 of 121
Hi Biddie

just reading that question I need to ask a quickie.

Is a hyperlink the same as a normal link or are the 2 different things?
Ali
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) View Listings | Report 26-05-06 14:27 BST 39 of 121
Scarletogrady
* I just copied post #34 in my group for future reference - but of course it just posted the symbols and not the code!... how did you do that

Heh heh :-D If you want to make the code appear rather than the symbol, you have to use the code for the & symbol, which is &amp;

So to make &euro; appear on the screen, you have to type &amp;euro;


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